"This bright silver or gold +3 chainmail:" flavor?
A discussion I had with YIDM on the characters forum makes me wonder about a certain object from the DMG.the description of the celetial armor in the DMG starts like this:"This bright silver or gold...
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Quote:But, at the basic level, what's the difference between the two?There are far too many things to discuss in that statement. That really determines on what the reader sees as a 'basic level'...
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Quote:That really determines on what the reader sees as a 'basic level' difference. I see changing materials, when no special material is specified (defaulting to iron/steel), while keeping ALL OTHER...
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Quote:I see changing materials, when no special material is specified (defaulting to iron/steel), while keeping ALL OTHER aspects of the said armor identical as a very subtle change indeed.Normally...
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Quote:Normally I'd agree with that. However the problem, IMO, with this statement when applied to celestial armor is that you can't account for where the changes to Max dex bonus, ACF, item weight, or...
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But, most specific items *don't* break the rules; often, they're quite easy to price, and they're pretty trivial to modify...Indeed, but pricing them still involves the DM doing some...
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Quote:If, however, a PLAYER has been browsing through the DMG comes up and asks for this mithril elven chain because they think it could exist and they've figured out that it's a cheaper way to...
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I'll just jump back in to say that no one needs to "ban" mithril celestial armor, because it is not part of the core.The question is not wether it should be banned or not, but wether it should be...
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I see it as quite core...core indeed (core SRD item, core SRD special material; both from the DMG). It's just as core as adding mithril to full plate = giving you mithril full plate.I am adding...
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Yep, just like a flaming flaming burst dagger and adamantine leather armor.
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Exactly! Actually you can't get adamantine leather armor as per the SRD:Quote:Only weapons, armor, and shields normally made of metal can be fashioned from adamantine. So...its not possible because...
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Quote:Actually you can't get adamantine leather armor as per the SRD:Nor can you get adamantine mithral chain, or mithral celestial chainmail, depending who you ask All we've proven is that randomly...
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Quote:All we've proven is that randomly rolling up equipment is of limited use for proving how rules work. It works quite well I think, provided the one doing the rolling applies a bit of thought to...
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Quote:It doesn't specify any SRD special materialReally... so if it said 'This chainmail is made out of unobtainium, an impossibly light and hard metal which makes the chainmail have a max dex of 6,...
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I believe the 'standard' is to ignore all flavor text (unless it applies / contradicts with respect to game mechanics).Now...if the SRD said what you just wrote above...I might just do it differently....
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In the game I'm starting today, I let the players all have access to a minor bloodline for free. You let your bladesingers (or, whoever) have access to mithril celestial chainmail. Guess we all see...
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Quote:In a campaign like Living Greyhawk, you'd be shot down _hard_. Maybe...dunno...can you MAKE celestial armor in LG? (with proper time certificates) Can you make armors out of mithril in LG? If...
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Quote:You're starting a new game?Heh, always... it's a little silly, but I know too many people. I'm gaming about... 3 nights a week, and I DM about half the time. 3 distinct different gaming groups I...
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I see it as quite core...core indeed (core SRD item, core SRD special material; both from the DMG). It's just as core as adding mithril to full plate = giving you mithril full plate.We're just going...
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Quote:Btw, you can make celestial chainmail in LG (with a document) and you can make mithril items in LG (with a document), so given the right documents you'd get your chance You could. But, if you...
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Quote:Why do I say "no mithril elvish chain"? Because I agree with many that it already includes an implied mithril.Elven chain does say it is made of mithral.SRD:Elven Chain: This extremely light...
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